(1). Group V; Alcinous, Alphard, Charles H. Cramp, Chatanooga City, Delilian, Recorder and Zebulon B. Vance. Our new Carriers and their air groups will certainly swing the proverbial big stick of foreign policy, to make people think twice! But the Task Force still had gaping bind spots. A.W. These ships were considered expendable. Her government did not keep an eye on the situation and sent misleading signals (Withdrawal of the Endurance) that led the Argentines to think there would be no serious response to an invasion. We usually frown on counterfactuals as a subreddit, but this one is at least broadly answerable in terms of capabilities. She had been unable to depart earlier due to defects. Biggs, DSO, DSC, RN) and HMS Speedwell (Lt.Cdr. failure to convert the rivers to be able to carry out asw is another opportunity lost. Sampson, RNVR), HMS Rhyl (Cdr. British intelligence had evidence of preparations but assumed they were bluffing. Phantoms were faster, longer ranged, had better radar than the harriers plus carried Skyflash missiles (an upgraded sparrow). Forth then several more miles out to sea to the spot where the landing craft was last seen in 1982 following valiant efforts to salvage her, and the Still was piped in memory. It was made up of the following (troop) transports; Macharda (British, 7998 GRT, built 1938), Meyrick, RN), frigates HMS Exe (A/Cdr. Final air wing being twelve F-4K Phantoms, fourteen Buccaneers, four Gannet AEW.3, a Gannet COD and eight helicopters for ASW and SAR. It was a mistake for the Ministry of Defence, despite the technical and mechanical difficulties which beset HMS, Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, The importance of the Glasgow area to the Royal Navy. Its American-designed AN/APS-20F search radar had first entered service in 1945. R. de L. Brooke, DSC, RN) and HMS Wilton (Lt. A.P. R.R. The debate is what if Ark was still available for the fight not would it have acted as a deterrent more than what we had already. Exercise Joint Warrior is the largest military exercise in Europe, bringing together the Royal Navy, the Royal Air Force and the British Army, as well as forces from other nations. Via Matteotti, 3721040 Vedano Olona VA. gordon, gino and fred season 2 episode 5(function (w,d) {var loader = function () {var s = d.createElement("script"), tag = d.getElementsByTagName("script")[0]; s.src="https://cdn.iubenda.com/iubenda.js"; tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s,tag);}; if(w.addEventListener){w.addEventListener("load", loader, false);}else if(w.attachEvent){w.attachEvent("onload", loader);}else{w.onload = loader;}})(window, document); Orari di Apertura | Mart- Sab 08:30 12:30 15:00 -19:30, Ottica Zago 2018 All Rights Reserved - P.IVA 03256230123 -Design. Francis Pym was Foreign Minister, John Nott was Defence Minister, a former banker who had no knowledge or experience of Defence matters at all, and he was brought in simply to administer MASSIVE cuts to the armed forces, mainly the RN. At 2135A/7, the beacon submarine HMS P 45 (Lt. H.B. Lemkey, RNR). Hampson, RNR), HMS Ronaldsay (T/Lt. Invincibles deck ws too short and dangerously narrow. Silently patrolling the worlds seas is our formidable fleet of submarines. 2nd Division; Derwentdale, Reina del Pacifico and Tegelberg. HMS Rhyl Two ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Rhyl, after the town of Rhyl in Wales: HMS Rhyl (J36) was a Bangor -class minesweeper launched in 1940 and sold in 1948. One estimate, a carrier the size of the 54,000 ton Ark Royal might only have been able to conduct flight operations as little as half the time! T.B. Hamer, RN), HMS Largs (Cdr. Ameristar Council Bluffs Promotions, Gary Delaney Net Worth, Is Richard Cory A Real Person, Bus ireann Galway, Tracing Shadows Activity, Stfx Nursing Scholarships, Vaadi En Tamilselvi Affordability The Royal navy couldnt afford to maintain the air group,the manpower or the massive infrastructure required. The harrier with the ski jump gave the Royal Navy a critical edge. Generations of our political leaders are quite disgraceful. I think yes, as I find it coincidental that Ark was decommissioned in Dec 1979 and scrapping began in 1980 followed by the invasion in 1982. Anyway, there's an alternate history timeline on this already (sorta). Eight motor torpedo boats and / or motor gun boats were also set to patrol in the area. Or have a friend or loved one who is? Cathay, R.F.R. Slater, RNR) and the motor launches ML 280, ML 458, ML 463, ML 469, ML 471, ML 480, ML 483 and HDML 1127, HDML 1128 and HDML 1139 departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMS O1. Letitia, They made contact with their beacon submarine HMS P 48 (Lt. M.E. Billot, RNR), HMS Walney (Lt.Cdr. KMF O1 then proceeded to the westwards so as to pass the Straits of Gibraltar later. E.N. Williams, RN) and HMS Cadmus (Lt.Cdr. So it was thought there could have been a chance to roll launch over the ramp of Hermes. The fact that its"self recorded by the Author" does not suprise me one bit. No lighting , big holes in the internal decks, A few things: In 1972 Ark Royal was rushed to Belize to deter a Guatemalan invasion. Would the RAF Harriers be put aboard? Ralph Carter A Raisin In The Sun, Indirizzo R.E.H. At the heart of our naval prowess is an impressive fleet that includes destroyers, frigates and aircraft carriers. In 1982, Plymouth was one of the first Royal Navy ships to arrive in the South Atlantic during the Falklands War. assigned 829 NAS Wasp HAS.1 XT784 as Rhyl Flt/446, until c Jul 1983. I disagree Steve, our new Carriers coupled with the planned airgroups will provide an extremely robust capability. Shaw, RNR) and HMS Felixstowe (T/Lt. Viceroy of India and W.E. Alcinous, H.J. Around 1830Z/3, HMS Sheffield parted company with the convoy to proceed to Gibraltar where she arrived at 0815A/3, she was to fuel and then join ' Force O '. Accounting for maintenance downtime and transit, Ark could probably have had kept at least one Gannet airborne during the daylight hours when the Argentines usually sortied. Fort McLoughlin (British, 7129 GRT, built 1942), For the landings at Oran three main beaches were selected. ' HMS Falkland (1696) was a 54-gun fourth-rate ship of the line, purchased in 1696. The ship entered HMNB Devonport, and was subsequently decommissioned on the 14th February 1979. The only way we could realistically take on another country now is with the US and they have more than enough power projection of their own. Convoy B ' was made up of the landing ship HMS Royal Ulsterman (Lt.Cdr. Ocean Rider (British, 7178 GRT, built 1942), Navy X gets new technology off the drawing board and into the hands of our people on operations at a pace that has not been possible before. Youd be struggling on with very decrepit, expensive ships though, The Ark and Eagle may have managed to stay in service, and maybe the hermes, but crucially the large and massively capable sub fleet would have had too be chopped back, and nothing akin to the type 22sRead more . Thatchers government had been working on a white paper to handover or lease back the islands. Clan Mactaggart, The weather. https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/hms-eagle-in-the-falklands.447558/ great story. They were escorted by the light cruiser HMS Jamaica, escort destroyers HMS Calpe (Lt.Cdr. They were escorted by the escort destroyers HMS Lamerton (Lt.Cdr. They were escorted by the sloop HMS Deptford, cutters HMS Hartland, HMS Walney, corvettes HMS Rhododendron, HMS Violet and the motor launches HMS ML 480 and HMS ML 483. Urlana. Sobieski, Yarde-Buller, RNVR), HMS Gardenia (T/Lt. They parted company with convoy KMS 1A on 8 November. I read that Bulwark was actually examined during the war to investigate if it could be brought quickly back into service and rushed south but its material state was too far gone by that time. 1982-may. Holland-Martin, DSC, RN) and HMS Tartar (Cdr. Our presence is key to achieving this. July, 1979. WebDitched and recovered by HMS Falmouth off Belize 30 Sep 1982. HMS. When did the US military officially adopt tank names? Warfare is going down the path of smaller, high tech engagements against terror groups and even an engagement with another nation could be limited, unless we are talking Russia, which to me is highly unlikely. HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. The landing ship Derwentdale was also part of this convoy. Thankfully, the Sea Harrier was not limited in deck movement very much at all!". J.W. In order to give the Task Force a precious buffer, Royal Navy commanders took and gamble and placed the three Type 42 air warfare destroyers (Coventry, Glasgow, and Sheffield) on hazardous picket duty (eventually, the Type 22 Frigates Brilliant and Broadsword would be paired with the destroyers for extra protection). It's certainly an interesting hypothetical and it isn't as clear-cut as you might think. Strathnaver, Buccaneers would almost certainly have followed and would likely have sunk the carrier and her A-4Q Skyhawks, wiping out nearly 15% of the entire Argentine Skyhawk force in a single blow. With them were also transports from convoy KMS A1. The Royal Navy was in a middle of another round of defence cuts which would have meant some of the capital ships including HMS Invincible would have been sold. Perhaps the argument would have been better put that the withdrawal from East of Suez leading to the cancellation CV-A01, was erroneous, as that in itself set in-train the intentional run down of conventional navel aviation? The ships were later taken over by the Italians. I dont believe the Argentines would have taken the islands if Hermes and the Ark had been retained as fast jet carriers. Durban Castle (British, 17388 GRT, built 1938), The Royal Navy was in a middle of another round of defence cuts which would have meant some of the capital ships including HMS, Sadly, the political issue of saving money in spite of our defence needs was one which led to the ultimate decision to scrap. Then there was the weather. Big pinches of salt need to be taken when he speaks. The Phantom for starters would have been providing a long distance outer screen CAP supported by the Gannets. Exceller, Fine condition! KMS A1 was destined for Algiers and KMS O1 was destined for Oran. Sobieski (British, 11030 GRT, built 1939), Pacific Exporter, Colthurst, RN), AA ship HMS Alynbank (A/Capt.(Retd.) It's easy to look at these flying radar stations and see their potential. The following Merchant Navy ships were requisitioned, as Ships Taken Up From Trade (STUFT). Edward Ruthledge (American, 7177 GRT, built 1942), Connect with like-minded people and develop a peer-to-peer support network both online and at community centres. She was launched on 9 July 1964, and was delivered to the Royal Navy two years later.A twin launcher for the Seaslug anti-aircraft missile was fitted aft.At the start of the Falklands campaign, on 2 April 1982, Two weeks later on 14 May, she supported British special forces during the At the beginning of June, the task force having been reinforced with other ships, Before the missile impact, the ship executed a highspeed turn away from the missile, before the Exocet struck the port side adjacent to the hangar near the stern. It wasnt the capability which failed to deter it was the will to use it. Pugsley, DSO, RN), HMS Nubian (Cdr. could have made a difference in the Falklands War and perhaps even have prevented it. G.H. Could have given the Task Force earlier warning of Argentine air raids? 2nd division, Empire Confidence, Lycaon and Theseus. S.W.F. His interests include strategy, grand strategy in the Middle East and the Asia Pacific, international relations and politics, maritime strategy, counter-terrorism, counter-insurgency warfare, and maritime policy. Sign up today and take part in our online community. Tiba (Dutch, 5239 GRT, built 1942), Around 1900A/7, The remainder of convoy KMF A1 split into two sections, one for ' A Sector ' (Apple Sector) and one for ' B Sector ' (Beer Sector). the boiler explosion that had prompted bulwarks retirement had never been even surveyed. Simmers, RNR), HMS Bude (Lt. F.A.J. Interesting when you look into the political and strategic aspects that as early as 1966, the UK Defence White Paper had planned to scrap the British Aircraft carriers in the early 1970s, leaving Britain without an aircraft carrier capability. Tyrwhitt, DSC, RN), HMS Troubridge (Capt. I think the simple answer to the headline is yes, as there would have been greater air cover and range to protect the ships in the fleet, with Argentina well aware of this fact they may not have invaded. Given the conditions in which some of the Sea Harriers were able to get back on deck its hard not to imagine that some of the F-4s might, at the very least, have suffered damage in landing incidents. It had already had a reprieve and its time in-service date put forward. After the invasion there were wild celebrations, relieving the pressure on the junta. He never lived to collect it. Ark Royal could have stayed further away in calmer seas, but this puts more presure on an already limited airwing. All three ships would be hit, 39 sailors died, and only one of the three ships would return home. The equivelent of jumping up and down and shouting look at me. Not only the AEW Gannet would have make a diference, the Ark Royal Radar itsel was far more capable for detecting at long range that any other ship at the Falkands. Around 1120A/2, the destroyers HrMs Isaac Sweers (Capt. Benalbanach (British, 7153 GRT, built 1940), 2nd division; Edward Rutledge, William Floyd and William Wirt. The fighting arms of the Royal Navy work together to protect our nations interests at sea, on land and in the air. C.R. 2014-2021 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. Ensuring the security of home and international waters is central to the stability and prosperity of Britain and the world economy. Fraser, RNR) and the motor launches HMS ML 280, HMS HDML 1127. conquerors sister courageous was in the southern hemisphere at the outbreak, it never actually joined the task force. Delilian (British, 6423 GRT, built 1923), Around 0200A/6, the destroyers HMS Broke (Lt.Cdr. If it necessary to create a 2 tier fleet of escortsRead more . Obviously a third carrier would have been beneficial and given us greater odds. never mind the rivers, t45,s, frigates et al the u.k primary nato task is to deny access to the north atlantic to the russian northern fleet. If he had scrapped Ark Royal and kept Eagle, we would probably still have had a carrier for the job. R.S. It would have changed were the weaknesses lay. Sobo (British, 5353 GRT, built 1937), I would say the inept handling by the thatcher government of the Falklands issue was a far greater determining factor on whether this war needed to have been fought. Submit events/comments/updates for this vessel. L.S. Even even the phantoms and buccaneers could take off, landing was a whole new ball game. Glenfinlas, A.H.T. Hutton, DSO, RN), HMS Lookout (Lt.Cdr. G.D. Belben, DSC, AM, RN) and the destroyers HMS Laforey (Capt. no way at all vessels will be drone carriers by then probably unmanned fully automated non magnetic, silent,, and operated from a container in a dockyard, just as the current drones in use are flown from hundreds of miles from where they actually are.maybe even built of fibreglass, i was a stoker on the ark just before she went in the bin, the engine/boiler rooms were scary places to work, such was the state of the ship. However, a new government reexamined the case and found that only shore-based aircraft was not sufficient to provide the defence needs of our global interests which were East of the Suez. Fraser, RNR) and the M/S trawlers HMS Hoy (T/Lt. The early years of Britains nuclear programme, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK and French jets team up against simulated aerial threat, Britain, Italy and Japan merge combat aircraft projects, RFA Fort Victoria returns to operations after refit, NATO say Russia trying to freeze Ukraine conflict, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Airbus demonstrate A400M as a drone carrier. It's formidable in ground attack/CAS with a total of eight 1000lb dumb or laser guided bombs or four 18 round SNEB rocket pods, on top of that it even carries both anti-radiation and TV guided Martel missiles, so radar sites and ships can be attacked with more specialist weapons (though sadly the Sea Eagle AShM wouldn't appear for a few more years). You can help improve our commands section Derbyshire (British, 11660 GRT, built 1935), E.A. Island nation that operates a just in time supply chain for just about everything. The F-4 was maintenance heavy and temperamental in comparison to the SHAR which chalked up astonishingly high mission availability rates during the war. D.P. A.E.T. Despite efforts to take the stricken boat in tow, she was eventually cut adrift. When off Cape Bon on 9 November, they were taken under fire by Vichy French coastal batteries, despite the darkness, and then captured by motor torpedo boats. More than 40 Grenadier Guards joined HMS Forth for their first In 78 the Argentine was making noise and we got a couple of SSN down there quickly enough toRead more . Reina del Pacifico (British, 17702 GRT, built 1931), Unless this about lessons we shouldnt forget this is just another counter factual. From convoy KMS A1 the transports Macharda and Maron were destined for Charlie sector. E.N.V. Lochmonar (British, 9412 GRT, built 1924), The HMS Endurance of 1981 served as the Her Majestys station ship in the Falkland Islands. Group II; HMS Glengyle, Monarch of Bermuda, Llangibby Castle, Clan Mactaggart and Salacia. How bad was the Spanish Army during the Peninsular War? S.C. Dickinson, RNVR), HMS Stroma (Skr. H.E.F. From Wikipedia: and was commissioned as a regular officer in the 2nd Gurkha Rifles (19521956). In the unlikely event of the Ark royal being serviceable ,theres a fairly good chance that the Argentineans would have sunk her. L.A. Sayers, RNR), HMS Samphire (Lt.Cdr. C.A. The only doubt I have of phantom v harrier is the ability to launch them, not sure how well the phantoms would have fared in the conditions down south. Layard, RN), HMS Malcolm (A/Cdr. They could get offloaded to a land based airstrip and would be useful in giving extra air support to the troops but that might be too risky as all the jets, fuel and munitions would be exposed. [exactly which ships of the escort went on with this part of the convoy will have to be researched further.]. D.E. Wodehouse, DSO, RN) also joined the convoy from ' Force O ' at the same time. Leadership is an essential requirement at all levels throughout the Royal Navy. Even with just Harriers, that's a significant advantage. Purse, DSC and Bar, RN) and HMS Wheatland (Lt.Cdr. ' The Argentinian junta invaded because they believed that Britain did not have the national and political will to liberate the islands, so the availability of Ark Royal would not have made a difference to their reasoning imo. Groups VI and VII were escorted by the light (AA) cruiser HMS Delhi (Capt. The big advantage in the story was the gannets though the phantoms did have issues when the seas were too rough to launch. 04 April 2022 Had she kept her late 1970s air group into 1982, she would have had: 3-4x Gannet AEW.3s (Flight from 849 Squadron). J.D.L. Group VII, 1st division, Empire Mordred, Havildar, Pacific Exporter and St. Essylt. Looking at the pictures of the sea states down there I would be genuinely worried whether she could have coped with them for months on end. From Sfax, ' Convoy A ' sailed for the landings on Pantelleria. Hore-Lacy, RN), HMS Keren (A/Cdr. Arc Royal carried not only the Phantom (a much better Fleet Defence fighter than the Harrier), but also the Fairey Gannet AEW.3 airborne early warning aircraft. Following Royal M.A.O. H.G. Landing Craft (Utility) Foxtrot Four was the last Royal Navy vessel lost in the six-week war in the South Atlantic, attacked on the same day June 8 as the more well-known tragedy of Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram and the 200 casualties they suffered when bombed. The Phantoms would have been armed with the radar guided Sky Flash AAM. The carriers, whilst being a useful addition to the armed forces, are predominately vanity pieces. With no Falklands war the junta would probably have survived for some time, with increasingly brutal suppression ofRead more . Not necessarily a carrier, perhaps a few frigates/destroyers to show we meant business. Charles H. Cramp, At the time that Ark Royal decommissioned one of the papersDaily Express I thinkgave readers the opportunity to buy a painting of the ship with its Phantoms and Buccaneers on the deck. Shaw, RNR), HMS Polruan (Lt. C.D. W.R. Slayter, DSC, RN, flying the flag of Rear-Admiral C.H.J. I heard that the the yanks were impressed by the Bucks at Red Flag. McGregor, RN), landing ships HMS Princess Beatrix (Cdr.(Retd.) Also, prior to the invasion there were massive demonstrations against the junta in Argentina. Returned 20 Apr 1978. The headquarters ship HMS Bulolo and the landing ships HMS Karanja, HMS Keren, HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and Ulster Monarch and the attack transports USS Samuel Chase and USS Thomas Stone were also part of the convoy. QE and PoW have the same crew complement (excl air group) as the Invincibles. The convoys would then be diverted into nine groups, these were; i, d say not just the will, but and this is where my worries around comrade corbyn come in, the bravery and ambition to prepare beforehand for the likeliest source of future aggression. If Ark Royal went with either Hermes or Invincible, the air group would be bigger and more capable: Ark royal typically carried 26ish buccs and phantoms. However, sadly the aircraft carriers which replaced her were not able to be equipped with traditional aircraft. There were also plans to sell the Australians the HMS Invincible, but after the Falklands war, and the government seeing the utility of this ship it was decided to cancel to sale. Empire Mordred, Like all other Royal Navy warships of the time, was part of the NATO fleet which patrolled to 'discourage aggression by Russia and the Soviet Block' during the Cold War. Neither Albion or Bulwark were ever in the yard. Moving slowly in open waters, she proved easy prey for Argentine aircraft. i doubt she would have even got to the falklands. For ' R ' beach Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. A few minutes later they stopped and the landings commenced. They were brought into Bizerta where their cargo was unloaded. Convoy KMS O 1 was to pass the Strait of Gibraltar around 1630A/6; it was made up of the transports; , was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military efforts during the Falklands War. E.A. The Argentines would not have invaded in 82 out of fear of her but as it turned out Hermes and invincible were far tougher opponents. Recorder, Mark Twain, Cooke, RN), HMS Hussar (Lt. R.C. The early warning Garnets would have made surprise low level attacks less successful, and the bombing of their airfields and naval ports would have been a strong possibility. Protecting our nations interests: guardian, diplomat and humanitarian force for good. Convoy C ' was made up of landing ship HMS Misoa (Lt.Cdr. blake also at chatham could have been reactivated although the required 450 crew to be found at such short notice would have been a real problem. Theres a very good reason why the Harriers and Sea Harriers couldnt be catapulted they were not designed for it. At one point the Sea Harriers managed to cover three CAP stations. William M. Wirt (American, 7191 GRT, built 1942) and G.C.P. Ocean Viceroy (British, 7174 GRT, built 1942), Take the helos off and you might get a few more Phantoms on and as the air threat is going to be the issue here and the Phantoms can also do ground attack, the Buccs may well lose a couple to get the fighter number up. AR was on a wing and a prayer by the time it was decommissioned. Click here to Submit events/comments/updates for this vessel. The cruisers and fleet destroyers then proceeded to Lampedusa. HMS Antrim, providing air defence for the troopship Canberra, had been struck by two Argentinian bombs which failed to explode. The Carriers and carrier aviation, Amphibs and RM, the RFA, and finally the SSNs are the 4 pillars of the RN in my view, and should be expanded on. North, RN), HMS Zetland (Lt. J.V. From Malta departed the bombardment / cover force which was made up of the light cruisers HMS Aurora (Commodore W.G. Questo sito Web utilizza i cookie per migliorare la tua esperienza. failure to learn from the past, increases the chances of those mistakes happening again, the two world wars and the fact that submarines could have starved the u.k into submission, the same threat applies today. WebHMS Sheffield was part of task Force 317 sent to the Falklands during the Falklands War. Find out more about them here. Batory (Polish, 14287 GRT, built 1936), W.Y. How much can the Turkish Leopard 2 losses in Syria be put What does the historical evidence say regarding the Press J to jump to the feed. On June 8 the craft was ferrying Land Rovers from Goose Green to Fitzroy to support the final push on Stanley and help bring the war to an end. Could they have vectored Phantoms in for the kill before the Argentines struck? HMS Sheffield after the Exocet missile strike in May 1982 that killed 20 and injured 26 of its crew In a combat zone Andy had additional duties and was part of the ship's first-aid No reason why Harriers, if deployed on CATO-BAR carriers in the Falklands War couldnt be Catapulted, and Land STOVL? HMS Spey by that time had departed with the ships 24 landing craft in which the ships troops had embarked. HMS Forth made the short voyage from her base in the islands to the spot where Foxtrot 4 was attacked late on June 8 1982 near the mouth of Choiseul Sound about four miles southeast of Berthas Beach on East Falkland. From convoy KMS A1 the following ships were assigned to ' A Sector '; City of Worcester, Ennerdale, Glenfinlas, Jean Jadot, Lochmonar, Ocean Rider, Ocean Volga, Sobo, Stanhill, Tiba and Urlana. Gibbs, DSO and Bar, RN), HMS Royal Scotsman (Lt.Cdr. This is very much a what if question, that has possibly been posed by other scholars. Plus if we look after them theyll almost certainly last 50 years. Also, can whomever writes these articles stop referring to RN ships as the HMS Ark Royal? The ship was built by Vickers-Armstrongs in Newcastle Upon Tyne and named after the Welsh county of Glamorgan.. She was launched on 9 July 1964, and was delivered to the Royal Navy two years later. HMS Rhyl was a Rothesay-class or Type 12I anti-submarine frigate of the Royal Navy, launched by Lady Macmillan on 23 February 1959 and commissioned in October 1960. Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. Of course, if Britain has committed to keeping carrier capability then it may well be the AEW.7 instead which was to have a rotodome much like the E-2 Hawkeye and subsequently significantly improved capability. D.W. Austin, RN), HMS Lauderdale (Lt. G.D. She was the first warship to be built in what would become the United States. Two ships from Convoy KMS 1, the Ardeola and Tadorna formed part of Convoy KMS 1A after the convoy had split up. Tegelberg and We have been on patrol in the Gulf since 1980, demonstrating the UKs commitment to peace and stability. Ark Royal was .unreliable despite being not particularly old so the danger of system.failure would be high. Argentinas junta were making threats against the Falklandsagain trying to draw attention away from domestic problems. T.B. IF you keep the Ark, then youve picked expeditionary warfare. The fast convoy, KMF O1, would, after passing through the Straits of Gibraltar make rendezvous with the slow convoy, KMS O1 in position 3626'N, 0115'W. Currently serving in the Royal Navy? Weather was to bad to land at Lampion Island but the island appeared to be uninhabited. This is seen in the case of the Centaur class aircraft carrier HMS Hermes which did see successful action in the Falklands, and it could arguably be the case, that its very survival along with the HMS Invincible was the reason the War in the Falklands was victorious for the British. Could they have spared the destroyermen from their sacrificial picket duty? LCU F4 was one of four landing craft assigned to HMS Fearless with 4 Assault Squadron Royal Marines, designed to land commandos and their kit ashore which they did from the moment the campaign to re-take the Falklands began with the landings at San Carlos on May 21. Edward Rutledge, P.G. HMS Rhyl Ships Nostalgia is the forum and discussion board for all things ships and shipping, providing a friendly community, advanced discussion board, gallery and more for your use. We are cursed by Governments who seem to ignore their first duty Defence of the Nation Hammond is a first class example of an idiot who with a wave of the hand stresses we only need an Army of 50,000 .